Because you have made the Lord your refuge, the Most High your dwelling place, no evil shall befall you, no scourge come near your tent. Psalm 91:9-10
I had a dream in the early morning hours today, August 21, 2022. I am relaying the dream here for your discernment.
I had a dream that we were in a church/forest. It was the ruins of a newer church, the kind built in the 1980’s and 1990’s. You know the kind that looks like the Colosseum in Rome where people went to be “entertained”. I remember thinking it had been named Holy Family, but it was not a church I recognized in real life. The shape of it was circular with the altar in the center and seats graded at an angle. Half of it had been blown away. There were still seats, like stadium seating, but we were largely outdoors. There was no altar anymore because it had been destroyed. There was no roof. There was forest overgrowth inside the building, so you couldn’t distinguish much and it felt more outside, even while there were seats to sit in. It barely resembled anything Catholic for I didn’t see crucifix’s or statues, or destroyed art. Save for the presence of Priests, it was not recognizable as a former church. Nature had taken it over and the overgrowth of greenery had hidden if there were any vestiges of a sanctuary.
There were several Priests there. They were all of Indian descent, but I didn’t recognize or know them. Their demeanor was cheerful, or joyful, which I felt was strange given the situation we were in, but I felt so peaceful seeing them. I sensed that they were Carmelites of Mary Immaculate, because I know of that order from the Carmel Center. These Priests were very protective of the children. One of them was beginning to say Mass.
On the perimeter were men with hunting rifles, the kind that would fire one shot at a time. I felt uncomfortable at that sight. I knew we were in a perilous situation.
Suddenly I heard machine gun fire, but it was coming from the forest in at us. We couldn’t see who was firing.
The Priest continued with Mass.
I thought for sure people would be dead and I was looking in fear at small children, but everyone was okay. They men were firing back into the forest, but their firepower was so weak and small compared to the machine gun fire coming at us. I felt it was useless. I wanted to tell them to stop.
I remember looking at a baby sleeping, making sure he wasn’t dead. He was laying in the grass, away from the seats, snoozing soundly without a worry in the world. He looked totally peaceful. None of the people there were sitting in the seats. They were standing and praying, or guarding the perimeter. No one was running in fear from the machine gun fire. All had a posture of prayer or protection.
I was in awe that no one was hurt and knew it had to be supernatural help that protected us.
Then I woke up.
August 21- Feast of Our Lady of Knock and Pius X
Our Lady of Knock And Saint Pius X, pray for us.
Veil of Veronica 
Kind of like Daniel’s vision. A structure of different materials, half intact and half destroyed, a portend of the future. Violence from within and violence from without. But God’s protection and peace covering all. Beyond that I will not dare to go. Deacon Simeon.
Praying for you and your family Deacon. May God’s peace be with you during this time.
Reminds me of Daniel’s vision. A large structure of varying composition. Subject to ruin. Due to be toppled. Subject from violence from within and violence from without. Prophetic in nature yet covered with God’s Providence. Beyond this I choose not to go. Yours in Christ,
Funny, but not funny that we went to Mass last night to a church called Holy Trinity that is set up exactly as you described, and there was an Indian priest filling in for the regular priest! I’ve noticed that Indian priests are very peaceable, exuding joy and love for God. Your dream is interesting. Much symbolism. Much to ponder!
That’s amazing
Stuff may continue to happen, but I feel strangely peaceful and joyful at times. I say “strangely” because so many around me have fear or worry about everything. I feel that no matter what happens in the future, I am wrapped in Blessed Mothers mantle. I read Psalm 91 almost daily….”no scourge come near your tent (family)”. God is Good. I trust in Him alone.
I think that’s what the dream was meant to convey. Have no fear. The church being filled with overgrowth speaks of quite a time of neglect and abandonment and yet there are priests with joy offering Mass for the people still willing to come although it was dangerous. The men with guns protecting them didn’t appear to have any effect. Bullets were still flying but not one injury. Like Susan discerned, supernatural protection for those that remain steadfast and trust in Him alone. He will also never abandon us no matter how difficult life becomes.
Was it a Novus Ordo?
New order. The Mass that was promulgated after Vatican II.
„I had a dream that we were in a church/forest.”
On Sunday, August 21, I visited a forest church in the Wiktorówki clearing in the Tatra Mountains [from 1.30 pm to 3.00 pm CEST] and photographed a roadside shrine burnt by lightning.
„It was the ruins of a newer church, the kind built in the 1980’s and 1990’s. You know the kind that looks like the Colosseum in Rome where people went to be “entertained”.”
Emperor Vespasian began building the Roman Colosseum in AD 72. Saint Thomas the Apostle of India was martyred in the same year on December 21. The name Thomas (or Didymos) means Twin, and so was the Church in India he started: although doctrinally Catholic, it is completely different in terms of worship. In short: a twin church to the church of Rome.
„I remember thinking it had been named Holy Family, but it was not a church I recognized in real life. The shape of it was circular with the altar in the center and seats graded at an angle. Half of it had been blown away. There were still seats, like stadium seating, but we were largely outdoors. There was no altar anymore because it had been destroyed. …. Nature had taken it over and the overgrowth of greenery had hidden if there were any vestiges of a sanctuary.”
A marriage is made up of a man and a woman – they are the halves of the whole. The Lord Jesus is the Man (Head) and Sancta Ecclesia is the Woman – these are the two halves of the Church. The half with the altar, that is, the Woman, was blown away, so the visible Church, known from the times of the apostles Peter, Paul and Thomas, was put to death and lies in the tomb (hence the ruins overgrown with trees).
“There were several Priests there. They were all of Indian descent, but I didn’t recognize or know them. Their demeanor was cheerful, or joyful, which I felt was strange given the situation we were in, but I felt so peaceful seeing them. I sensed that they were Carmelites of Mary Immaculate, because I know of that order from the Carmel Center. These Priests were very protective of the children. One of them was beginning to say Mass.”
All these priests of India descent come from the Church founded by Saint Thomas the Apostle! Moreover, their headquarters are in Kochi, the port where St. Thomas landed AD52. These priests represent the twin church. At the same time, they are Carmelites, so they are uniquely related to Our Lady and the prophet Elijah, who brought fire from heaven.
„On the perimeter were men with hunting rifles, the kind that would fire one shot at a time. I felt uncomfortable at that sight. I knew we were in a perilous situation.
Suddenly I heard machine gun fire, but it was coming from the forest in at us. We couldn’t see who was firing.
The Priest continued with Mass.”
Hunting rifles = faithful Christians have little power of their own (inner) fire.
Machine gun cannonade from stealth = the enemy works from hiding and has a high firepower (hellfire).
„I remember looking at a baby sleeping, making sure he wasn’t dead. He was laying in the grass, away from the seats, snoozing soundly without a worry in the world. He looked totally peaceful. None of the people there were sitting in the seats. They were standing and praying, or guarding the perimeter. No one was running in fear from the machine gun fire. All had a posture of prayer or protection.
I was in awe that no one was hurt and knew it had to be supernatural help that protected us.”
The child sleeping on the grass next to the ruins of the temple from the 80’s (90’s) has – by God’s will – such internal firepower that it exceeds the firepower of the defenders of the militant church and the firepower of the enemy operating from hiding. Who is this? Who can have that strength? This is the Fire that the Lord Jesus wanted to throw on this earth, indeed, he even confessed that he came for it. Okay, but who is it? This baby is the Twin of the Lord Jesus, the second Son of God, who was born by our Mother, that is, the Holy Church. With the disclosure of this Twin, all creation will stop sighing and crying in birth pangs, for it will finally get the revelation of the Sons of God (plural). This event will usher in the age of the Holy Spirit and the real kingdom of God on earth.
Susan, do you know why you had this dream on the day of St. Pius X? You will find the answer in his nickname ‘Ignis Ardens’ [‘Flaming Fire’] from the prophecy of St. Malachi and in his coat of arms motto: “To restore all things in Christ.” The visible Church lies in the tomb, but will resurrect with the disclosure of the mysterious Fire, Twin to the Lord Jesus, the second Christ.
And why did it happen on the anniversary of the apparition of the Blessed Virgin in Knock? First, the apparition took place outside the temple walls, on the grass. Second, St. John the Evangelist, as bishop, has the fullness of the priesthood and is an alter Christus. With his presence, Saint Joseph indicated the marital relationship between this Bishop-Head of the Church and this Woman, that is the Church. Moreover, the event in Knock is an anticipation of the revelation of the Woman clothed with the Sun and her Son, and at the same time her Man, that is, her Spouse. This Man is the same as the promised Fire or Sun!
Sept. 5, Blessed Teresa of Calcutta
https://www.zakopane.pl/strefa-turystyczna/turystyka/wycieczki-gorskie-latem/szlaki-lato/rusinowa-polana-i-wiktorowki#images-4
very interesting.
I left out important details in my previous post, sorry! In the messages, Jesus asks the Church to glorify the works of the Holy Spirit. The new temple that he asked to be built is to be a place where the works of the Holy Spirit will be especially adored and glorified. He promised Graces for all who visited, saying it would be a centre of irradiation of the Holy Spirit for the entire Church. He wanted it built in Loreto because of the presence of House of the Annunciation and the central role of His Mother in the first and 2nd Pentecost.
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This is a very interesting dream and comments by readers.
About the ruins of the Church and nature taking over, I get a very good feeling about this. By God’s design, nature obeys the Lord (so is in the Divine Will) contrary to men, whom I see represented by the stones of the Church/colosseum. The stones that are blown away could represent expelled or departed rebellious
members or those not yet fully converted.
I also share this for your discernment which relates to the shape of the Church in your dream.
There was a nun in Italy, sr Carolina Venturella who received locutions in the 60s-70s about the coming reign of the Holy Spirit through a 2nd Pentecost. The messages were published after years of discretion by her confessor, Fr David de Angelis, under the title The Divine Power of Love, which is the most glorious attribute of the Holy Spirit. In the messages, Jesus requests the construction of a Church in Loreto, a Temple of the Holy Spirit, which He says that it will be a centre of irradiation of the Holy Spirit. The locutions speak of a flame that go from this centre by action also of the presence of His Mother – whose House of the Annunciation is also in Loreto.
I bring this up because of the shape of the new church of the Holy Spirit which is meant to irradiate the power of Divine Love of the Holy Spirit. You can see it in the video below at 1m21 and 3m16. On the outside, it is in the shape of a mystical rose, symbol of the Virgin Mary, with seven large petals which represent the 7 gifts of the Spirit and doors all around that represent that all are welcome. It has a roof but the shape and interior looks like a colosseum with 3000 seats. The altar is in the centre.
The video presentation of the messages and church project is on this page (the messages have imprimatur shown in the video) https://www.sanctespiritus.org/en/holy-spirit-blog/
Here is the main site of the movement, which is in Italian
Click to access 383-marzo-aprile.pdf
Now I love the traditional shape of our Churches and don’t care for this big amphitheatre shape, but I share it because of your dream. We are on the cusp of a new world, just like the Israelites were and they would have despised the site of the Cross back then. But it then became the symbol of our Lord’s Passion and our path to follow.
Blessings
This is a very interesting dream and comments by readers.
About the ruins of the Church and nature taking over, I get a very good feeling about this. By God’s design, nature obeys the Lord (so is in the Divine Will) contrary to men, whom I see represented by the stones of the Church/colosseum. The stones that are blown away could represent expelled or departed rebellious
members or those not yet fully converted.